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Informal hearing highlights illegal immigrant criminals

Army Staff Sgt. Anita Shaw spoke emotionally Thursday about receiving a call in Iraq, during her second tour of duty, that her son Jamiel, a high school football star in Los Angeles, had been killed. Police have charged an illegal immigrant believed to be a gang member with the crime.

“We are supposed to be the land of the free, the proud, the brave, but it seems that we are being taken over by another country././. the illegal alien gang bangers,” she said.

A visibly shaken Shaw appeared before lawmakers in an unusual forum that focused on the victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrants.

Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee arranged the event on the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to bring attention to the issue, saying that Americans are being terrorized by illegal immigrant criminals.

The unofficial hearing was decried by immigrant advocates as an attempt to exploit the grief of crime victims to paint all foreigners as criminals in order to further an anti-immigrant political agenda.

The Immigration Policy Center, an advocate group, said that the gathering was “irresponsible and dangerous.”

“It is especially troubling to see lawmakers exploit the pain of the victims of these terrible crimes to promote their political motives,” the group said, in a press release.

Rep. Steve King, an Iowa Republican, said that the unofficial forum was needed because the Democrats — who control Congress — have refused to have a hearing on the topic.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., who chairs the House Judiciary subcommittee that overseas immigration issues, said that was not true.

“I don’t know what is the matter with this guy,” she said of King.

Lofgren said she agreed with King’s request to ask the Government Accountability Office to investigate how many crimes have been committed by illegal immigrants.

Once they get that information, they can have a hearing, she said. “We need facts,” she added.

In addition, she said of the unofficial hearing: “If they want to go through fake proceedings, I guess that’s up to them. The public is going to know it’s just a bunch of baloney.”

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By Brittanicus

September 11, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Only elect hard-line anti-illegal immigrant politicians. Illegal Immigration is lowering wages and stealing jobs from legal Americans. This major issue is costing taxpayers too much. Higher property taxes, free health care, education and a multitude of government welfare programs Just take a look at ‘Sanctuary City’ California’s financial demise. $ 11. billion dollars is attributed to the illegal immigrant welfare, who have drained the states funds.

If we enact the Federal SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) enforcement only law. Mandatory E-Verify processing. Millions of illegal aliens will leave by self-deportation. ATTRITION! No job, they will leave of their own accord. Only anti-American groups and Liberal-Democrat-Socialists are stopping this law. ASK THEM WHY?

www.numbersusa.com have the uncensored truth? IT’S YOUR FAMILIES FUTURE. DEPORTATION OR OVERPOPULATION. IF WE DON’T STOP IT NOW, THEY WILL KEEP COMING..

JOIN 756.000 other American patriots at www.numbersusa.com , to stop the travesty of our immigration laws. Learn about Immigration governmental corruption at www.judicialwatch.org

By WesM

September 11, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Quote: “Lofgren said she agreed with King’s request to ask the Government Accountability Office to investigate how many crimes have been committed by illegal immigrants”

Uh, Doh-Oh! How does she expect to get [any] information back from the GAO? Her party and the rest of the softheads have insisted that there be no singling out of Illegal Aliens when they are charged… in many places the law officers are prohibited from determining the legal status of offenders they pick up.

Smokescreen time from the Pro-amnesty lobby!

By BackfromIraq

September 11, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

In a just released report from the U.S Census Bureau; The nation is projected to reach the 400 million population milestone in 2039. That is an increase in population of 100 million in the next 30 years! In 2050, the US population is projected to be more than 30 percent Hispanic (up from 15 percent in 2008), 15 percent black (up from 13 percent in 2008) and 9.6 percent Asian (up from 5.3 percent in 2008). Minorities, now roughly one-third of the U.S. population, are expected to become the majority in 2042, with the nation projected to be 54 percent minority in 2050. 3/4th of this population growth is directly related to the influx of foreign aliens and their offspring totaling some 2.4 million each and every year!!

Assuming the same ratio of population and infrastructure needs the US will need to build 36,000 schools, 52 million additional housing units and construct enough roads to handle another 90 + million cars !

Such dramatic increases will effect many issues that Americans are concerned about including the environment, traffic congestion, spral and the loss of open spaces. This massive increase also would have implications for the size and scope of government. More densely populated societies almost always are more heavily regulated societies !

By legal

September 11, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

The antis want all immigrantion stopped, legal and illegal, and they are willing to exploit people’s genuine pain to further their hateful, agenda. This is the narrow world of lou dobbs and steve king and others that share their extreme views.

By the way, recently the main anti-immigrant group in DC, the so called Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), was designated as a hate group by the civil rights era- Southern Poverty Law Center.

By Paul

September 11, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

To carry on an argument with legal, I have said it before, and I will say it again. Right now, the USA is a de facto wide open colony for Mexico. Practically every living soul in Mexico has a relative here, and can be sponsored for legal residency. I wonder how Mexicans would feel if 20 million gringos tried to migrate into their territory. It would be total war!!!!!! Oh, and let’s not forget about the free social services, medical care, foodstamps, etc. But, on the other hand, we are the evil white people, so we owe everyone else the shirts off our back, right?

By Paul

September 11, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

Now, let me continue in a similar vein. Does anyone remember the El Salvador civil war in the 70’s and 80’s. Our govt was involved because we wanted to thwart Cuba’s role. When it was over our State Department wanted to let ‘refugees’ in from that country. I met a few Salvadoreans in Dallas, and hoped their lives would be good. Here it is 25 years later, and many children of the Salvadorean refugees became MS-13 gang members. But, oh shucks, I forgot. We owe the entire third world the shirts off our backs, don’t we?

By L1M89

September 12, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this

Aside from your silly anecdotal rants, substantiate your wild assertion. Who has said they want all immigration halted, show articles with valid links. As far as hatefully racist agendas you only have to glance at un-American groups like LaRaza, MEChA, The Brown Berets de Aztlan & OLA to see the personification of hate. Quote By legal: [‘The antis want all immigrantion stopped, legal and illegal,’]
Is so, show who & when. The “Southern Poverty Law Center” has been discredited, long ago, to all but a few anti-American extremists. Going with them will get you right back where you started from & with empty pockets.

It’s the pro-Illegal Alien moonbats who are anti-American. They attempt to deny our USA the right to exert its sovereignty by limiting who comes & goes across our sovereign borders. Pro-Illegal Alien zealots advocate the utilization if Illegal Aliens as economic slaves to benefit unscrupulous employers who are 21st century slave masters.

Moonbats attempt to confuse the debate over economic slavery by branding all American patriots who oppose your immoral agenda as racists, bigots & anti Immigration. It is you & your fellow pro-Illegal Alien zealots who’re the racists, bigots & anti-American moonbats.

By George

September 12, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

It’s not a bunch of baloney. Maybe some illegals from some countries aren’t violent but the majority of illegals from Latin countries are. All you read in the police blotter in the paper anymore are about Mexican illegals.

By galoco_lee

September 12, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

L1M89, I find that when one provides links the articles don’t get posted. Besides I/m certain you have heard on the US Census Bureau and that you should be able to find that site yourself. But then you have to be willing to read the facts now don’t you?

By AntiBVBL.net

September 12, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Illegal aliens don’t kill people, bad people kill people. Otherwise, the argument that guns don’t kill people, people kill people know longer holds true. Very simply, bad people kill not illegal aliens.

By AntiBVBL.net

September 12, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Illegal aliens don’t kill people, bad people kill people. Otherwise, the argument that guns don’t kill people, people kill people no longer holds true. Very simply, bad people kill not illegal aliens.

By Kent Clark

September 12, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

AntiBVBL.net says:

“Illegal aliens don’t kill people, bad people kill people. Otherwise, the argument that guns don’t kill people, people kill people no longer holds true. Very simply, bad people kill not illegal aliens.”

If bad people kill, then a lot of bad people are illegal aliens.

By Kent Clark

September 12, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

“Very simply, bad people kill not illegal aliens.”

This is a logical fallacy. The logic is:

If that a person kills because he is is bad, and not because he is an illegal alien, then illegal aliens don’t kill.

The correct logic is:

If bad people who are illegal aliens kill, then there are illegal aliens who kill.

By galoco_lee

September 12, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

AntiBVBL, Let me quess - you are a virgin. At least in the sense of never confronting evil for what it is. Oh, those bad boys! Wake up! 21,000 citizens have died at the hands of criminal aliens since 9/11 according to representative Kink’s nation wide study.. There is no such thing as an illegal alien - they are criminal aliens! What part of illegal don’t you understand??

Think about this one: According to the U. S. Department of State(and I’m certain you can find that website) 600,000 to 800,000 people are trafficked internationally every year, between 14,500 and 17,500 of them are trafficked into or within the United States.

Washington Tuesday, September 09, 2008– U.S. Customs and Border Protection and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (two more easily found websites) today launched a new campaign to raise awareness against human trafficking. It brings together federal, state and local law enforcement agencies as partners in combating modern day slavery. A forthcoming symposium presents anti-trafficking experts to highlight what different organizations are doing to combat this horrific crime and to further raise awareness of the crime. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement works with its law enforcement partners to dismantle the global criminal infrastructure engaged in human trafficking. ICE accomplishes this mission by making full use of authorities and expertise, stripping away assets and profit incentive, collaborating with U.S. and foreign partners to attack networks worldwide and working in partnership with nongovernmental organizations to identify, rescue and provide assistance to trafficking victims.

By galoco_lee

September 12, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

AntiBVBL, FYI, In just the first 10 days of this month over $18 million of drugs have been interdicted by customs and border protection. Oh, those bad boys again! LM1, I tried to put a link but the AJC killed the post as usual.

BVBL, I recommend that you study the history of the two “Opium Wars” in China to learn what happens to a country flooded with drugs. Then you will know why China is the authoritarian Communist China of today. Could history repeat itself here in the USA??

By LATINO LOVER

September 12, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

TO MY HISPANIC AMERICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS! Please let the USA know that you are against any amnesty for illegal aliens! YOU HAVE TO STOP LA RAZA AND LULAC FROM STEALING YOUR VOICE! If you are Americans or legal immigrants, AMERICA LOVES YOU! If you are an illegal aliens, GET OUT NOW!!!

By The Taxman cometh

September 12, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

The Immigration Policy Center, an advocate group, said that the gathering was “irresponsible and dangerous.”

How about having 12,000,000 illegal aliens who are “irresponsible and dangerous” in our country.

These are not citizens of the UNITED STATES. They only have rights in their own country. Just like the scumbag who lived here in the USA from the time he was 3 years old claim his MEXICAN heritage only after getting the death penalty. SEND THEM HOME>

By scott

September 12, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Calling anybody an immigrant makes it sound like they belong here. I think we should get back to calling them illegal aliens, because they are alien to this land and refuse to asymilate to American culture. It is dangerous and irresponsible for Democrats to keep burying their heads in the sand about this issue. I do vote and I WILL VOTE FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THE CITIZENS FIRST.

By D. Shannon

September 12, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

In the pro-illegal alien crusader’s minds, if one wants to uphold U. S. law, he/she is a “racist”. If that be the case, God love us racists. This is a load of crap and a means to shut up anyone who doesn’t agree with their pro-illegal alien claptrap. It’s not working anymore. We’re used to your slurs and are now taking them as a high compliment.

We need enforcement, and enforcement only, of our borders and we need it now.

By Himtngal

September 12, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Get a life Zoe - Steve King is the next Tom Tancredo and Americans are sick and tired of you and your cohorts pandering to illegal aliens. ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL. Take it to the limit Rep. King.

By frank l kinney

September 12, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

STEVE KING R- IOWA SAYS WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION! judicial subcommittee chairwomen ZOE LOFGREN D-(CALIF) say’s it’s just not true? WHATS NOT TRUE LOFGREN? AMERICANS are not becoming crime victims by illegal immigrants? tax dollars are not being wasted on foreign invaders? facts truth, NEWNATION.ORG! DEMOCRAP LOFGREN the house judiciary committee chairwomen and her party does their best to protect the illegal invaders. lofgren SANCTUARY CITYS? open borders? VOTER FRAUD! doing your BEST? INDEPENDENT for truth justice and the american way! CHUCK BALDWIN sounds real good!!! michigan little big horn AMEN.

By Cee

September 12, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

These people who believe that the crimes of illegals in the US are not a problem should offer up their loved ones so that if an illegal want to commit a crime thay just need to seek out someone whose family won’t care.

Maybe if our elected officials and their loved ones had to suffer the pain and loss that illegals have inflicted on citizens and legal residents they would understand that life will never be the same.

Zoe, which of your family members is to be first on the list? I’m sure that given the rate illegals are committing crimes, it won’t be long before you have a chance to find out.

Until you have walked in someones shoes, you cannot criticize them.

By John

September 12, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Listen to America Betrayed @ www.theamericanvoice.com sponsered in apst by # 1 grassroots org AIC and CCIR and Carrying capacity network

By Mary

September 12, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Zoe must be getting a lot of votes or money for protecting illegal behavior. Just another scummy politician who has helped the congress achieve a single digit approval rating. Throw the BUMS out!

By dataman1

September 13, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

The United States does not exist for the convenience and benefit of foreigners. We have laws and the overwhelming majority of Americans want our laws enforced! The SPLC is a bunch of illegal alien loving moonbats.

By LadyM

September 13, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., an illegal alien’s best friend…..enough said!

By Bobbie

September 13, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Rep Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif, an illegal alien’s best friend, enough said!

By MaryJ

September 13, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Zoe Lofgren is an immigration lawyer. She sees big fat dollar signs in the eyes of every single illegal coming over the border. More illegals, more potential clients, more fat fees for Zoe Lofgren and her immigration lawyers’ lobby.

By John - Las Vegas

September 13, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

I am a United States Citizen, born in Montana, and raised in the southwest. I, like my fellow citizens, believe in the rule-of-law. Above all, my country will have law and order.

If you are an immigrant who filled out his forms, waited for background checks, entered this country legally, and are here to make a better life for yourself, contribute to the society, and believe in the rule-of-law, then I say, Welcome to my country. I hope you find it as rich as I do. You don’t have to become a citizen, if you don’t want to, that is your right. You may find that citizenship has great rewards, but it often includes grave reponsibilities.

The jury system of Texas is mired in one of those responsibilities right now.

If you commit a murder in my country, we will kill you for it. I don’t care if you’re a wall street banker, or an illegal alien from Mars. When we catch you, we will put you to death, and I for one, applaud that action, and will continue to VOTE for that action. Another grave responsibility.

I am curious how people, whose very first act in coming to my country, is to break the law, and then continue to break the laws of this land have the audacity to claim the constitution guarantees their rights. When in fact the constitution guarantees my rights as a U.S. Citizen. You have your own constitutions, laws, rulers, whatever and none of them will protect in my country. The fact that we extend some of these guarantees to our visitors is entirely by our choice, don’t forget it’s our country.

If you break the law in my country, I will see you go to prison. And I will continue to vote for that action, as well as representatives who agree with my position, on the rule-of-law. I will continue to vote for border security and I believe in a minimum 5 year felony for first offense, crossing my sovereign country’s border illegally.

Above all, as a citizen, I will not have anarchy in my streets, and will continue to support my Police, Border Patrol and Army, who will remove you from my streets, as I pay them to do. Should their leadership decide not to, I will vote for someone who will.

A grave responsiblity sometimes, but I will have rule-of-law. I will not stop. I am an American Citizen, and I HAVE RIGHTS that patriots fought and died for.

If you are in my country illegally, then I suggest you leave now, because I fully support throwing you in prison before they send you home, and no amount of crying, whining and protesting will change my vote.

By L1M89

September 14, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Those moonbats who oppose securing our nations sovereign borders & who advocate the use of Illegal Aliens as economic slaves, are aiding the cause of foreign & domestic terrorist organizations. Drug Interdiction & stopping the invasion of Illegal aliens are only part of the battle that’s being waged in an effort to defend our USA.

Patriotic American Citizens can help by keeping the heat on our political cucarachas to do what’s right for American Citizens & not what’s ok for global interests. We have many enemies foreign & domestic & patriotic Americans can help to defeat their propagandizing by not allowing their lies to go unchallenged, as you have been doing on this & other blogs.

Terror On Our Borders

[‘For years America’s northern and southern borders  5,938 miles of dense forest and open land  were fair game for drug dealers and illegal immigrants looking to sneak into the U.S. That was before September 11, 2001.

After the 9/11 terror attacks, securing America’s borders became a national priority, says Jay Ahern, deputy commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection. “There was an absolute shift in thinking about the border, from drug interdiction, alien interdiction, criminal interdiction at our borders to one of national security.” Ahern said.

In the last seven years there has been a huge expenditure of money and resources to prevent an attack on America from the north or south. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security was formed and, under it, Border Patrol was flooded with new resources.’] more - http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/08/21/terror-on-our-borders/

By Backfrom Iraq

September 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Today: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 Gwinette Daily Post By Camie Young Senior Writer

LAWRENCEVILLE - A grand jury panel said illegal immigrants appear to be committing a “disproportionate number” of crimes in Gwinnett.

By Backfrom Iraq

September 16, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Athens Banner Harold A Clarke County Juvenile Court judge ruled Friday a 15-year-old Athens boy will be prosecuted as an adult for allegedly running over and killing a woman as she walked along Commerce Road in June. Authorities say Gonzalez-Perez was at the wheel of a borrowed pickup truck the night of June 14 when it swerved onto the shoulder and hit 19-year-old Nayasheika Cooper from behind. Gonzalez-Perez allegedly was drunk at the time. A Mexican national, he is in the country illegally and worked at a local poultry plant under an assumed identity.

By Backfrom Iraq

September 16, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Business Chronical Sept 12 Francisco Santillan Arellano, 36, pleaded guilty on Friday to charges of conspiracy to make and sell fraudulent Social Security cards, permanent resident cards (green cards) and driver’s licenses, and to identification document fraud and aggravated identity theft.

Arellano, also known as “El Padrino” (The Godfather), was the head of a fraudulent document manufacturing and sales ring that distributed its products to illegal aliens. He admitted to law enforcement authorities he employed at least 17 people in metro Atlanta to run the fraudulent document business for at least two or three years prior to his arrest on March 25. The ring operated at least two document labs at apartments in the Forest Park and Lindbergh-Buford Highway areas. Arellano admitted the ring sold about 90 sets of fraudulent documents every week.

Arellano was indicted in April 2008. He pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy, one count of identification document fraud, and one count of aggravated identity theft. He could receive a maximum sentence of 12 years in prison and a fine of up to $750,000. He is subject to a mandatory minimum sentence of at least two years in federal prison.

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