Letter: Judges cannot change truth about marriage

By Ray Clarke Sr.

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I am encouraged that North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper will defend the state’s pro-marriage/family amendment. What has happened in Virginia and in other states concerning the definition of marriage is saddening. I see these judges’ actions striking down the pro-marriage/family measures as further evidence of the breakdown of the family in America.

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Oops, another of those nasty

Oops, another of those nasty double entries.

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It's a well established fact

that marriage is an ancient institution established by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (before any pagan religions). This is recorded in the ancient texts of the Septuigint and the Torah. It is then transliterated into the the New Testament canon by Christ Himself. It is also a well established fact that our nation was founded upon the morality of Judeo-Christian principles and furthermore marriage never began as a civil contract. That has come about relatively recently. Marriage from the earliest times, and still is today in many nations around the world, especially in the middle east, considered to be a covenant which has always been considered to be much more binding than a civil contract. The difference between a covenant and a contract is that a covenant is based on trust and the latter on mistrust. The conversations about the subject today often reflect the lack of knowledge of, and the dismissal of covenantal law of the ancient and middle eastern cultures, instead focusing on the relatively new and modern westernized legal system. Under current westernized civil law marriage is the only contract under which the person who breaches the contract can actually be rewarded for doing so; not so under a marriage covenant. The point here is that the traditional and theological marriage covenant (between one man and one woman) predates any and every civil contract known to the modern western world. Even though it is recorded, polygamy was never sanctioned theologically even in ancient Judaism, the ancient roots of Christianity. As you may recall the patriarch Abraham got into quite a bit of trouble for following his wife's advice. Trouble that has persisted to this day.

Well put Twinstar

I concur.

Marriage

under the law, is a civil contract overseen by the courts. That's why you have to have a license. That's why you have to go to court to terminate the contract (divorce). That civil contract existed under pagan religions; it has nothing to do with Christianity or indeed, any religion. In some churches, there may be a sacrament called "marriage," but it has nothing to do with the civil contract. No one is suggestion that any church should be required to offer the sacrament of marriage to ANY couple -- heterosexual, homosexual or interracial. That's for the churches to decide. The civil contract of marriage is NOT for the churches to decide.

I concur.

I concur.

I suggest..

You re-read my letter. I stated--quite clearly--that the truth of marriage is husband and wife. Any other realtionship you can call anything you wish but it would not be what makes up true marriage. An apple was created as an apple--you can call it an "orange" all day if you want to but it does not make it so.

When you say

"No one is suggestion that any church should be required to offer the sacrament of marriage to ANY couple"... I didn’t know you were the official spokesperson for the entire gay, lesbian, transgender, transvestite, metrosexual, bisexual, sex changing, and same bathroom/locker-room using community… We'll soon see clergy sued or brought up on charges for refusing to "marry" same sex couples... just as we're seeing businesses sued for refusing to cater to these events. if one group is being attacked for their faith - why stop there? Soon it'll be labeled as a hate crime... stand by...

Do Mo

Sadly, the retoric is already sounding. There are many who are trying very hard to make this a civil rights issue when it is ---in fact--a behavior issue. Smoking is a behavior as well as drinking but do we see marches ralling agenst "no smoking" in resturants or at AA meetings? No one is dening marriage to anyone. Any man may become a husband as well as any woman may become a wife. What has happened in VA and in other states is tragic--but the courageous are standing up for the truth.

Nor for you, Melanie

Your (supposed) litigation prowl is going to convince me that God has nothing to say or do with what is right mor wrong concerning marriage? I think not! It is those such as yourself, filled with worldly pride and a blind eye to God's will, that are bringing down this great nation. Better to live a lifetime of faith in God's laws than to live an eternity of regret.

There you go with that

There you go with that mythological entity again.

How do you know?

He is very very real to me! I've spent years in mathematics - being an engineer - and it is clear to me it takes more faith to not believe in our creator... to believe that by chance flesh came to be... the odds are astronomical - estimated that there is less than 1 chance in 10 to the 40,000 power that life could have originated by random trials. “If chance be the Father of all flesh, Disaster is his rainbow in the sky, And when you hear State of Emergency! Sniper Kills Ten! Troops on Rampage! Whites go Looting! Bomb Blasts School! It is but the sound of man worshiping his maker.” - Steve Turner

I have found no credence in

I have found no credence in any religious dogma. I too am an engineer; I also studied biology. Believe whatever you wish for whatever reason you choose; you live in a country that allows that. However, I do find your final sentence a bit far-fetched.

As I have found no

credence in the secular postmodern world view - which is religious dogma when boiled down - just man defined. My wife has her masters in biology - making my studies in biology unworthy of mention, but we're equally yoked spiritually... I encourage you to research the work of Francis Collins who headed the Human Genome Project. That research sequenced the roughly 3 billion letters in the human genetic instruction book. It's fascinating - and it confirms the mathematical impossibility of life randomly occuring... To characterize life randomly occurring – it’s like taking all the letters of the alphabet, putting them in a bag and then dumping them on the floor - and having it read Shakespeare’s Hamlet. Perhaps you’re asking the wrong questions when you say you’ve found no credence? It takes more failth to believe in random chance over our Creator...

I have not been asking

I have not been asking questions; I have just been reading and using common sense. I stopped asking questions when I dropped out of my second term of bible school because they couldn't/wouldn't answer my questions.

I have found no credence in

I have found no credence in any religious dogma. I too am an engineer; I also studied biology. Believe whatever you wish for whatever reason you choose; you live in a country that allows that. However, I do find your final sentence a bit far-fetched.

OOP's double entry, my

OOP's double entry, my mistake.

OOP's double entry, my

OOP's double entry, my mistake.

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